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  1. #1
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    Control of molding ends

    This problem came up in Wendy's class last night, and it got me thinking.

    The angle of molding termination can be controled with a miter, and specifying no molding on the selected edge.
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    Wow, that's great, Bill! Thanks for sharing. I was really wondering about that last night.

    By the way, Wendy's tutorial about moldings last night was extremely useful for me. I learned stuff that I was able to use right away. Thanks Wendy, if you're reading this!!
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    Well if I had been there I would have shown you how it works. We have done some very complicated molding situations.

    Have a great evening.
    Last edited by louis; 10-01-2008 at 03:12 PM.

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    Hi Louis,

    I have really liked Wendy's approach to the subject matter. I have found it very relevant to the way I work.

    I know that you are very knowledgable as well; I would certainly consider taking a similar serries of group lessons on advanced topics from you if you choose to offer them.

    I hope things are back to normal in Houston, and hope you have a good evenenig as well.
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    Thank you Wendy

    I was trying to make a porch beam symbol Tuesday morning.
    Stretch zones didn't work and the miters screwed up..

    Had an Idea from Wendy's class to use molding lines..
    Used a cad box with line breaks in it to form a U shape..

    Making a molding profile tip= open it and show line length..
    Size of numbers can be set in cad defaults..
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    Very interesting Bill. Louis, (or Wendy) Why don't you show us some examples of molding situations along the lines of Bills post.
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    "Wendy's class"?

    I thought that she either:

    a)Had no class

    or

    b)Was in a class by herself


    To hear otherwise confuses me!

    Have a fun weekend, kids!

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    Wendy has a lot of class...
    And in a class by herself..
    Top notch Lady
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    Got that right....
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    Why don't you show us some examples of molding situations along the lines of Bills post.
    Okay. All of these parapet tops are complex p-lines.
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    I was trying to make a porch beam symbol Tuesday morning.
    Why didn't you just use beams?
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    Hi Louis,

    I'd be curious to know how you handled the miter on the rake.

    It looks like you might need to level out before mitering as shown in the first picture here, in order to avoid what's happening in the second picture.
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    Hi Joey
    I was going for trim on it .Built up pine with crown molding.
    Still deciding if using a line or a box is a better way..
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    Quote Originally Posted by billemery
    Hi Louis,

    It looks like you might need to level out before mitering as shown in the first picture here, in order to avoid what's happening in the second picture.
    Hi Bill,

    Modeling this with the software is still too much for me, but I wanted to comment on your approach. In actually building that detail, you are correct. If you go level first, you can miter the molding together very easily. If you return without going level, it can be done, but the carpenter must custom shape the return piece (pieces) to match the longer miter of the facing molding. So, I assume that if you wanted to model that without going level first, the molding polyline would also be different than the facing polyline?
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    Dave,
    I think leveling out is the easiest way to handle in Chief and in real life, but what you suggest can be done fairly easily in Chief by selecting "no molding on selected line" for the return, and then adding another molding line for the return and increasing its vertical size to match the height of the raked molding. This added molding line would also need a return with "no mldg on selected line" so it would miter properly.

    The other way to handle it is with the return piece fitted at a right angle to the raked piece, but this is a little more difficult, and would require drawintg the rake and the return, rotating it to the proper angle and turning it into a symbol.
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